tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post2780107867548131962..comments2023-07-07T18:34:09.628+06:00Comments on Bangladesh War Crimes Tribunal: The UK police's failure to investigate 1971 war crimes 20 years ago David Bergmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02674636000068693356noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-80416210944232781912013-11-26T17:35:06.708+06:002013-11-26T17:35:06.708+06:00David, what do you think of CMU's account: htt...David, what do you think of CMU's account: http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/11/24/i-cant-be-hanged-says-mueen-uddinJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-39490092084910077102013-11-14T22:52:04.370+06:002013-11-14T22:52:04.370+06:00Hi Fugstar. Obviously, I agree that this should ha...Hi Fugstar. Obviously, I agree that this should have been/should be tested in a court of law. And yes of course, I accept that my view may not be the correct one, and/or at least the allegations cannot be proved in a UK court of law. Libel case was settled with Mueen Uddin dropping the case. No damages paid by Channel Four.David Bergmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02674636000068693356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-7060171040401130042013-11-14T21:35:46.485+06:002013-11-14T21:35:46.485+06:00Interesting, perhaps a court is the best place to ...Interesting, perhaps a court is the best place to settle this and strength test the evidence. Better than your tribunal my media.<br /><br />Re: content<br />What evidence was lost?<br />What happened to the libel case that was initiated?<br />Do you accept the possibility, however small, that you may be mistaken wrt your version of events?<br /><br />I am trying to imagine the political economy of war crimes trials at the time the Met sent over the file. By 1995 Jahanara Imam had passed on and Shahriar Kabir was very much leading the charge, Jamat were pulling away from the ruling BNP and cooperating with the Awami League to bring them down. Meanwhile, the Awami League had assured Jamaat as per 1992 Hasina-Azam parley that they would sabotage the Nirmul Movement. (Ref: Rentu Memoirs: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/amarfashichai/Amar_Fashi_Chai.pdf)<br /><br />Fugstarhttp://www.fugstar.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-91531526610880113452013-11-14T19:53:53.264+06:002013-11-14T19:53:53.264+06:00Hi Jonathan. A few points. My view about Mueen Udd...Hi Jonathan. A few points. My view about Mueen Uddin relates to the work I did as a journalist 20 years ago which indicated his involvement in the abductions in December 1971. I remain confident in that journalism. I think the British police should have independently investigated the allegation in 1995/6, and if there was sufficient evidence, prosecute him there. That view is entirely consistent with my writings on the tribunal in Bangladesh. I supported the principle of holding tribunals, but the practice of the tribunals has failed to meet acceptable standards in my view. You would be entirely wrong to thing that my criticism of the tribunal reflects a view that I think the Jamaat accused are neccesarily innocent of the allegations. David Bergmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02674636000068693356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-88482476912336216262013-11-14T16:15:01.471+06:002013-11-14T16:15:01.471+06:00David. you must realise how self serving all of th...David. you must realise how self serving all of this sounds. We were with you with your justified criticism of the ICT. now to turn around and say that your claim to fame, mueen uddin. the man whom i've made my career off - is obviously guilty. Makes this all sound a little self interested. From your writings you make it sound that if he was tried in a UK court he would have obviously been put away. what are you basing this on?jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-47839408496366311002013-11-14T09:48:27.121+06:002013-11-14T09:48:27.121+06:00Anonymous above, have you read the article? Puttin...Anonymous above, have you read the article? Putting to one side for the moment the significant credibility problems with the Bangladesh tribunal, Chowdhury Mueen Uddin was tried in absentia (so he did not have to face trial as such) and he will never be extradited to the Bangladesh. So whilst the process may well have resulted in satisfaction in Bangladesh, it has had no meaningful result in relation to Mueen Uddin. Had the UK police taken action 20 years ago, and prosecuted him in a UK court, things may well have been very differentDavid Bergmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02674636000068693356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772259882748892857.post-52081287256193134332013-11-14T09:37:00.776+06:002013-11-14T09:37:00.776+06:00So you're criticising the ICT on the ground of...So you're criticising the ICT on the ground of delivering injustice and now stating Muendeen is escaping justice!!!! Dude!!! Its a serious inconsistency!!! Either you have to say the ICT is delivering justice through just trial process or Mueendeen avoids injustice!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com